Obama-Romney Presidential Debate: Live Chat
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- October 16, 2012
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Joe Gonzalez
9:03 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
When will you use US Military Troops to secure the USA borders against illegal entry by trespassers and drug dealers? (Currently US Military troops are guarding the
borders of Japan, South Korea, Isreal, etc.)
JR
11:16 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
The Army and Air Force are limited in the ability to act in a law enforcement capacity on U.S. Soil; the Navy and Marines are prohibited from doing so pursuant to a long-standing DOD directive.
Rich MiddleIncome
9:32 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
You say that the "rich" are anyone making over 200K is that gross or net? Why don't you take the cost of living in the regional areas into account? Compare someone making that amount in a metroplitan area vs. Arkansas. That's why so many people I know have kept their jobs in the NY metro area and relocated their homes to Delaware, NC, anywhere the cost of living is lower.....
BellairBerdan
9:51 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
It's 250K and it's taxable income, which is after deductions, not gross. In addition it is only the taxable income ABOVE the $250K. Anything $250K or below would remain the same. Earning that much money puts you in the top 2% of all earners. Chances are if you were doing the same job in AR you would not be earning the same amount you are in the NY metropolitan area.
Nordrom Keni
10:03 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
The sad irony is that most ordinary Americans making less than 250k pay lower taxes under Obama than they would under Romney. These middle class Americans hate Obama and accuse him of being a socialist when all he is doing is giving the middle class a break. The richest Americans and corporations can afford to pay a higher tax rate, and it doesn't discourage investment like so many believe. Romney would increase the tax rate on the middle class, that's a fact. And if you think trickle down economics works, I have a bridge I want to sell you. Obama has done many other good things as well, for example trying to penalize corporations which ship American jobs overseas. But Republicans killed that bill.
If people bothered to actually look into the things Obama has done or tried to do they might realize that he is done a pretty good job. But instead people are focused on calling him names and trying to convince people that he is a Muslim etc. So if you make less than 250k and want to pay higher taxes, go back to deregulating the banks, have the country get involved in more wars etc go ahead and vote for Romney. I thought America had enough of that crap in 2008. Guess America is getting nostalgic for the Bush era.
RidgewoodResident
7:27 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Why should corporations be penalized for outsourcing work? People can complain "Dey tuk er jobs" all day, but punishing companies for outsourcing is just going to result in more expensive labor, with the extra cost passed on to the consumer.
Although it's unpopular among both parties, almost 90% of economists agree that free trade is more good than bad for us.
And Obamacare throws the President's "no taxes on earners under $250k" promise out the window.
stewart resmer
8:03 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
uhm ridgewood? because Americans need jobs? was this a trick question? Guess you were not in West Milford today when resident after resident complained about lack of jobs and business opportunities, and astronomical taxes to Governor Christie.
It always mystifies me when people suggest 'that sucking sound of jobs leaving the country' (Ross Perot) is a good one and that the reverse sound of the return of good paying jobs for Americans and the construction of store factories and infra structure is a bad thing because people might get better wages working conditions and benefits?
Does the phrase all boats rise register with you at all?
Ridgewood Mom
9:36 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
RidgewoodResident,
Are you seriously asking why Americans should have an interest in keeping jobs for Americans?
Jon
11:40 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
No, the sad irony is that most ordinary Americans buy a lot of crap that was made in China. People don't seem to get that if you stop buying the junk, and start buying and demanding American made goods (or, heck, at least North, Central or South American), then and only then will you stop the flood of slave-labor produced toxic Chinese junk into this country.
Patsy Ann Smith
12:24 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Mr Keni,
I think that you really need to do additional research. Trickle down means government taxing the very wealthy and hoping that this creates jobs for the middle class. It doesn't work, never has and never will.... once you kill the desire to succeed and the small, medium and large entrepreneurs in the world... we are really in a bad situation. Secondly I am not voting for Obama and it has nothing to do with his race or nationality. That is what all of you left wingers want to pin on us.... Patsy Ann Smith
Lola
10:54 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Very well said Nordrom! I 100% agree with what you said. It is sort of like a cow routing for Burger King---when the middle class, latino's, african americans, etc. vote republican! Remember--Obama is a Socialist Muslim who hates Christmas and wants to take away your guns! lol!
chris
3:22 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Nordrom you are sadly mistaken. Take a study in history to fully understand what supply-siders like Romney believe. By lowering rates across the board, you increase the base (the amount of people paying taxes) so tax revenues to the govt. actually go up. Coupled with limits on deductions & closing loopholes (which will definitely hit upper income folks much more than middle) you also increase revenue. JFK did it, Reagan did it. It works there is no doubt about it and it's what this economy desperately needs.
Obamacare alone will level serious tax increases on the people who can afford them the least, not to mention we will become even more a HAVE/HAVE NOT society when it comes to health care. Ever hear of concierge physicians? People who have the money will pay for this service, their doctors will put them in a special category and give them priority. Meantime, everyone else will have to wait months to see a doctor. It's a big farce.
Lastly, do you realize there are now 23 milliion people unemployed -- AT LEAST. Unemployment among blacks AND women is 14%, 48 million people are on food stamps! WAKE UP! Do you truly believe 4 more years of the same is going to change this course? AND there is a new report out just last night about all the WASTE of taxpayer money that was the stimulus! It is going to amount to 6-700 million in wasted taxpayer funds by the time it's all said and done. Please, start opening your eyes before November 6th.
Patsy Ann Smith
12:08 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Thank you Chris... I couldn't have said it any better... You have all your ducks in a row and are very informed.... Patsy Ann Smith
chris
3:30 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
One more thing - I won't recommend FOX, but just TRY watching Larry Kudlow at 7pm on CNBC for one week. If you walk away not having learned one thing then I give up. He has top economists, top business people on, who only want to see this country get back on the right track again. If you are going to demonize everyone on Wall St, you are also making a big mistake. Sure there are some bad apples, but not all finance people are evil. Stop buying into that junk! The reason the economy tanked so bad is because of the Dodd/Frank bill that forced banks to give loans to potential homeowners who couldn't afford to pay their mortgages! It was a bubble that was bound to burst and fyi, Bush wasn't a saint by any means, but he DID try to reverse the course Fanny & Freddie were on - congress fought him that is a fact. If you want to believe your own history, than so be it.
William Mays
3:33 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
I can tell you that 90% of the people on Wall Street are only interested in profit, I would know, I work on Wall Street.
XJS
3:35 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
@billy- does that make them evil or beholden to stockholders?
Jon
10:53 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Billy, what's wrong with the other 10%? Are they trying to get fired?
Ridgewood Mom
4:35 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
stewart resmer
5:16 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Rubio Casts Doubt On Romney Tax Plan Math
Steve R.
9:12 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Obama has some nads to bring up wind energy in this debate.
What A Frickin Idiot!
Ridgewood Mom
9:41 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Why wouldn't he bring up wind energy?
Long Time Resident
9:25 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Gas prices were low because we were headed to a recession? WTF is Obama talking about???
Ridgewood Mom
9:41 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Take it from the experts in the oil industry:
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Why-Low-Oil-Prices-Indicate-the-World-is-Heading-for-a-Recession.html
Sportsfan
9:26 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
"Annnnnd that's just not true" Obama has NOTHING!
Ridgewood Mom
9:48 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Easy on the drama.
Long Time Resident
9:27 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Obamas energy Secretary said that the Obama Administration would not rule out $10.00 a gallon gas prices .....this Administration is insane.
Ridgewood Mom
9:45 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
False.
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/obama-wanted-higher-gasoline-prices/
Long Time Resident
10:14 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Chu said in 2008 he wanted gasoline prices in America to get to the European level, which is $9 or $10 a gallon. Did Chu really say that? Yes, but he said it before he became energy secretary and before Obama won the 2008 presidential election. Shortly after becoming energy secretary, Chu said it would be “completely unwise to want to increase the price of gasoline.”
Denobin
10:30 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Nice job keeping everyone honest and keeping down the rhetoric level, RWMom!!
Ridgewood Mom
10:17 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Romney is getting his pants-on-fire kicked hard.
Long Time Resident
10:20 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Obama lied about the cause of the embassy murders.....All he kept saying was it was because a movie right on Letterman......4 Americans died and Obama lied. Obama is getting his but whipped .....
Ridgewood Mom
10:31 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
The moderator had the facts in front of her Long Time. You may like Romney, but he got burned on that one.
I enjoyed Obama's chuckle.
Long Time Resident
10:45 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Really, so when I rewatch the Letterman show I will see when Obama mentioned this was a terrorist act....is that what your saying....gee I must have missed that. Obama is the one that got burned on that one with his blod face lie.
Ridgewood Mom
12:50 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLZIefhQLzU
Ridgewood Mom
10:36 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Heh. Romney cares about 100% of 53% of the people.
Long Time Resident
10:46 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
And Obama cares about the bittter people clinging to their religion and guns. Remember that Obama special moment?
Ridgewood Mom
10:57 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Difference is, he comes across as if he really does care about them too.
Ridgewood Mom
10:42 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Whatever our views, i don't think there is any question that Obama will come out better from this. I'll bet anybody a dollar that we'll see it in the polls by the end of the week.
Long Time Resident
10:49 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
I'll take that bet your gonna regret......
Long Time Resident
11:52 am on Monday, October 22, 2012
Ridgewood Mom.....it's been more than a week and the polls didn't show any bump for Obama's performance in the 2nd debate. I believe you owe me a dollar!
Ridgewood Mom
4:57 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012
Wrong. I said Obama would come out the better and that we would see it in the polls by the end of the week. I was right.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/343373/3/Polls-Obama-had-edge-in-second-debate
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/17/us-usa-campaign-poll-ipsos-idUSBRE89G1JV20121017
Ridgewood Mom
4:59 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012
Just donate my dollar to the Obama-Biden campaign please.
Long Time Resident
5:47 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012
That poll you refered to was only about the debate, not a poll on how voters intended to vote. If you check the polls that ask likely voters how they would vote Obama did not gain any points as a result of this debate.
In their first polls conducted partly after the second presidential debate, both Gallup and Rasmussen Reports show that Mitt Romney has extended his lead over President Obama among likely voters.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/did-romney-win-second-debate_654916.html
Sorry but you lost the bet. You can send my dollar to the Romney Ryan campaign, thank you.
Ridgewood Mom
7:01 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012
Long Time Resident,
The bet was about whether or not Obama made out the better because of the second debate and whether or not we would see that in the polls by the end of the week. By whichever measure, that is precisely what we see.
Pick a poll. In half of them, Obama is currently in the lead. In the other half of them, Romney is listed as in the lead for the popular vote and behind in the electoral contest.
Let's take one of the polls that leans to the right- Rasmussen. In the days between the first and second debate, Romney was gaining increasing traction with gradual increases all the way up to being several percentage points ahead of Obama the day of the debate. Since, Rasmussen has shown a decrease in Romney's lead up to the point of them being tied 47%/47% just the other day. It now shows Obama to be one point behind Romney, but my point was spot on. Obama came out the better from the second debate and we can now see it in the subsequent polls leading up to the end of the week.
Long Time Resident
7:24 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012
Sorry Ridgewood Mom but I disagree with your assessment. How about we call this bet a draw and bet on who wins the election instead. That way there will be no way the bet is subjective, debateable or subject to opinion. Care to make another bet your gonna regret?
Jon
10:52 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Q. "Who denied the request for extra security at the Benghazi consulate, and why?"
A. "Bananas are on sale for $0.69/lb. at Shop Rite this week."
Very effective strategy.
Long Time Resident
10:54 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Jon.....what can I say other than LOL!
BellairBerdan
11:11 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
He was too polite to say it was Congress for cutting their security funding in austerity measures.
Patsy Ann Smith
12:30 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
That's hillarious Jon... makes you wonder doesn't it.... where is all the coverage on Benghazi???? Patsy Ann Smith
stewart resmer
10:58 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Romney gets punked by Crowley on Libya
Aladdin Sarsippius Sulemenagic Jackson III
11:00 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Romney sure got beaten bad tonight. Maybe he'll bounce back for the 3rd and final debate - but Romney lost this one soundly.
stewart resmer
12:26 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
‘I’ll pick a number’ Romney reveals tax plan details at debate
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