Boy Carrying Fake Rifle, Wearing Camouflage Suit Found On Ridge Road
Police say they have notified the school district of the situation involving a 13-year-old Mahwah boy
One week after sensitivity to gun violence was heightened across the country because of an elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, police picked up a 13-year-old Mahwah boy wearing a camouflage outfit and carrying a fake rifle. According to police, the boy was walking through a wooded area Friday afternoon at the corner of Macarthur Blvd. and Ridge Road, which houses four of the township’s six schools.
According to Police Chief Jim Batelli, a Ridge Road resident called police after seeing a boy walking in the area wearing the bottom piece of a camouflage suit and carting a large satchel.
When police found the boy in a wooded area near a business complex on Ridge Road, he was wearing the bottom half of a Ghillie suit, a “complete camouflage outfit that is designed to resemble heavy foliage,” Batelli said. “It is generally made of netting and cloth with loose strips of burlap attached which is of a color to resemble foliage and is commonly used by snipers or hunters.”
The boy was carrying the top of the suit, and, inside the bag he was carrying, a “replicate long rifle with a scope and a stabilizing tripod,” Batelli said.
Police say they are unsure why the boy was carrying those items or dressed in the suit, but are continuing to investigate it.
The boy initially refused to identify himself to responding Police Officer Ryan Hill and Lieutenant Stuart Blank. He was brought to police headquarters where he identified himself “after an extended period of time,” Batelli said.
Juvenile charges against the boy are pending a review by the Investigative Bureau, he said.
Police confirmed the boy is from Mahwah. Batelli said he has "spoken with school officials so they are aware of the situation."
One of the corporations in the area, Seiko, requested a police presence when its employees left for the day, which was provided, Batelli said.
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Regenbogen
5:16 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
I hope this is taken seriously by the authorities and not a hand-slap!
KG
2:14 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012
Oh for criminey's sake! A kid playing army with a toy gun. That is a crime? Did you never play army or cowboys and Indians as a kid? Or cops and robbers? Please !
Let's get the facts before we lambast this kid and his parents and the city. Assuming it is not a real gun, and there are no actual laws being broken here, calm down, get a grip. If on the other hand, there are laws broken, fine, then do the appropriate punishment, but so far, it looks like a witch hunt.
Jude
4:40 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
KG I find it hard to believe that you don't see this as a problem.....He wasn't just in camouflage he was covered in grass and dirt with a fake but real looking rifle. How do his parents let him out like that? In light if gun problems and children being killed, this boy is lucky an officer did not pull a gun on him!!!!!!
KG
9:55 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Jude,
Not I don't see it as a problem. I see whole hundreds of people dressing up and doing civil war reenactments complete with canon fire and musket fire, so this isn't that big of a deal. The same thing with Pirates and Renn Faire costumes. It doesn't always happen at large event venues. Some like to practice.
Yes, if a cop shot him by over reacting then yes, that would be a tragedy.
Now, if there is an ACTUAL law in the county where having a replica is illegal either by virtue of being too young, or just because, then yes, I agree that his parents need to supervise him better. But just being out and playing army in costume, isn't a big deal.
We just had a 15 year old wear his gilly suit at Halloween and everyone thought how cool it was to see him vanish into the bushes. I bet many more kids and even a few dads are thinking about getting one for themselves. They are not very expensive.
Nick
5:16 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Where are the parents. In some school districts, this is an automatic one year suspension. Not sure how Mahwah will handle. Parents should be notified of the kid's name as well.
Jude
4:40 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
He didn't do it in school, suspension is not needed. What is needed is that someone get to the bottom of why he went to the trouble of dressing that way,,,,A psychiatric eval is needed for sure. it should not just be dismissed by his parents as a little prank.
Malcolm from Mahwah
9:34 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Let me get this straight. An 8th grader was playing army in the woods, and you two geniuses want him expelled and prosecuted?
JP
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
You seem like a gun supporter with that comment, so you should know that according to NRA's LaPierre on today's Meet the Press, that's exactly what he wants to see happen. Prosecute, to the maximum allowed, all these incidents. While I agree with you that the incident should be looked at for what it really is, what in the world was this kid actually doing (and doing it alone)?
Nick
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
In light of what happened last week, I think this is more than a kid "playing army" (by himself). You could do nothing and wait until something happens, or take care of it. What if someone armed saw him and thought it was a real gun? And, if like you say, it's just a kid playing, why not release his name to the parents?
KG
9:55 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
JP, That is NOT what Wayne said. He said punish CRIMINALS. This boy is not a criminal. His actions are not criminal.
JP
12:39 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Oh really KG? That's yet to be seen I believe. Why are there, "Juvenile charges against the boy are pending a review by the Investigative Bureau", as stated in the article? He wasn't told to go on home by the police on the spot, he was brought in because he resisted them by not answering questions. There's way more to this story then we've heard so far. How about an update Patch?
Jessica Mazzola
12:47 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
JP - I am working on an update to this story. I should have it ready sometime next week.
KG
12:52 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
JP - Yes, they brought him in. Did they do so legally? He didn't want to identify himself. He may not have been actually required to do so. Many police try to intimidate you to doing things they don't have the right to force you to do.
I agree that we need more info to see what charges are being brought. None may be and these are just empty threats to get him to capitulate to something.
Also he may not have committed a crime, but an infraction or other low level violation. That still does not make him a criminal. Hey, if he violated an actual law, then sure he deserves to be held accountable commensurate with the nature of the violation.
Pete Malvasi
9:34 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
I'm sure the consequences will be serious BUT the schools and PD really have to make sure the public is made aware of the outcome ASAP. Thankfully the Patch here is excellent in covering the local news.
T.S.
9:34 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
That sounds like a severely disturbed young man with the potential to do disturbing things. I hope that testing and treatment are being prepared before his actions escalate into a repeat performance like we are witnessing in the news! This absolutely needs to be taken seriously and unfortunately will probably never find out who this is or how it was handled. I am a parent with children in the Mahwah schools and I want to know that my children are safe. At this point in time, I have to believe they are no safer than the innocent children in CT.
Malcolm from Mahwah
10:54 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Thank heavens Seiko took action to protect their employees before a six year old in a Darth Vader costume showed up.
JP
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Your sarcasm is a major part of the problem we have on this issue. Not taking it seriously enough.
Bob
1:22 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012
Dear Malcolm, you rule, these people are the most selfish "me too" types I have ever seen! It was an anomaly not a pandemic!
stan "the mann" mann
5:11 am on Tuesday, December 25, 2012
"in an unrelated story, an employee of Seiko called the authorities when he noticed a nine year old with a super soaker squirt his little sister.
DC
11:22 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Malcolm it is no laughing matter what has happened in recent days to innocent children and teachers. Perhaps what you are missing here is THAT child was also in danger. If he raised the weapon (fake or not) at the police he could have been shot himself. If you want to be insensitive do it privately.
Malcolm from Mahwah
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Oh, I get it now. Calling to pillory a terrified child who will likely never trust a cop again after this, is alright. As long as you can cook up a hypothetical scenario with a worse outcome. And questioning the wisdom of this makes me insensitive.
Chris
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Thank you DC
J.rJounalist
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
The traffic event at Sandy Hooke have shocked America to enough change the gun law in which I haply oblige. Though just taking the gun away are not going to do anything, we need to pushes the people who abuse the 2 amendment even the parents. Were is this 13 year old boy parents, will they get punished? No not with a fine, with time HARD TIME maybe even some parenting classes. How do you let your kid walk out of the house with a semi automatic gun in a camouflage suit AND NOT STOP THEM OR CALL THE POLICE?
"Hey dad I'm going out side to play?"
"With what and who"
"Just you gun a a camo suit"
"Have fun son here 33 cartages and don't forget to pick up some milk at 7/11"
"OK, kids theses days.".
Who does this?
Malcolm from Mahwah
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
I honestly don't know what scares me more here. Your reading comprehension, spelling, or that you might be a registered voter.
JP
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Question for Jessica... is the photo attached to this article the actual person as encountered by the police, or is it just an example of the type of gear he was wearing? Can you subtitle it so there is no confusion
Jessica Mazzola
5:25 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
JP - It is an example. There is a caption underneath the photo (Click on the photo to see it). It reads: "Patch File Photo. Example of a Ghillie suit. This is not the suit or the boy found in Mahwah."
Regenbogen
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
DC
You are absolutely right! Making a mockery out of this situation, as Malcolm is, shows his immaturity. A fake weapon can be easily mistaken for a real one.
T.S.
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
I agree with DC- Malcolm is not only being insensitive to the heart broken families in CT, Malcolm is also being ignorant of the seriousness of this issue. It is the year 2012, it is no longer ok in todays society to be a teenage boy parading around the woods dressed in severe combat attire when unstable individuals are doing the same and shooting in movie theaters and schools. Malcolm, do yourself a favor and refrain from posting such insensitive comments for the public to read.
Malcolm from Mahwah
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
Excellent point if a kid wants to play army in this day and age we need some ground rules. Only military costumes which don't offend liberal sensibilities are to be allowed. Unfortunately that only leaves two choices: gay marriage officiant or al-qaeda.
A. G. Denmark
5:23 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Sounds like Malcolm is a child, i'm guessing a tween, who is incapable of recognizing a dangerous situation. In this climate of high alert, there is no room for stupidity, especially a kid with a fake rifle walking to school. The police are still investigating but should not rule out suspension, at the very least. His parents need to get in his face and the school needs to get him some help.
wiser
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
I doubt Malcolm is a child. How many of you posters even know what the word pillory means, let alone an adolescent. No matter. Everybody needs to take a deep breath and let those who are responsible for dealing with such issues deal with them. If you suspended or expelled or incarcerated every adolescent who used poor judgement where would YOU be? Maybe you would have a school record that prevented you from getting a higher education? Maybe you would have a juvenile criminal record that puts you into a system that incarcerates more people Per capita then 90% of the industrialized world. Please, please, please show a degree of compassion and patience. Today's children don't have the latitude to make mistakes, but they make them regardless. Just my thoughts on the eve before Christmas Eve.
Ira
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
What are going to charge him with?
Wearing camouflage is not illegal, fake wood gun is not illegal so ....
trespassing ?
hsr
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
Is this another one in the works?
rodney van dunk
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
wow its a kid we did it when we were young lets calm down the gun was fake and charges pending i guess they should stop selling gi joe toys
Billy
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
Ok you all are blowing this out of contex because of the shootings never happened this would not be an issue and for all you that want the kids name so you can have more to talk about because this entire town is like a big sarority house and just love the dram and you people must have no clue what the other side of the law is like and now after reading all of your comments I hope and pray that you or your children do something so stupid that it also get blown out of control and you have to sit on the other side of all the bs. I'm sure Malcolm is not a child he seems to be the most intelligent one out of all of you. And to comment on everything that has gone on I feel very bad for what has happened in CT but unfortunately like everything else in this good county there is never any action untill something happens and or till all of you complain enough and they only do something so you just shut up also you won't know the kids name from the police because its confidential because he's a Juvenal other then that have a wonderful holiday and god bless everyone
ClayporkmeatMann
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
Your all stupid and your opinions are that of a lobotomie. The only intelligent one is Malcolm.
Sue
9:41 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
In light of recent events, how else was the situation supposed to be handled? All possible explanations need to be investigated... Without all the facts, I don't see how its possible to just dismiss the situation as "play". Mahwah would look mighty foolish if there is more to
the story. If it turns out that it was bad judgement on the child's part then someone needs to sit that 13 year old down and give him a wake up call as to the events that have occurred!
Abt
11:55 am on Monday, December 24, 2012
What are they going to charge him with? Here's an example of poor journalism: Ms. Mazzola didn't ask the police any questions. Just swallowed the press-release hook, line, and sinker.
Bob
1:22 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012
Relax, it's patch not the Times.
Abt
2:14 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012
So what Bob? Isn't the author supposedly a professional reporter? Please do not obfuscate.
Jessica Mazzola
2:16 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012
Actually, Abt, the info cops were releasing initially was limited, since the investigation is ongoing (stated in the article). But, I do ask questions. Thanks for checking.
Bob
1:22 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012
It's a shame, a young man like that playing outside in the woods. He clearly should have been playing video games inside. I hope he gets expelled for playing in the woods and he should be institutionalized for life for it. BTW, Newton was an anomaly, it is not happening in "your" town, whatever your town is. Like 9/11 when every Podunk town wanted "protect themselves" from terrorists who have no interest in Peoria to being with!
A. G. Denmark
5:11 am on Tuesday, December 25, 2012
The anger shown by Malcolm and his teen buddies is palpable, and makes me more afraid for the kids in Mahwah schools. I can only hope they know they boy in question, and are simply coming to the defense of a friend. Further, The Patch is a wonderful service to our community, a place to express civil opinions, and I don't think such rudeness should be tolerated.
J
5:25 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
I have a 10 yr old son who loves to play Cops, Army & Marines. Since he could talk that is all he has ever wanted to be. We teach him right from wrong, we do not allow him to play with real guns but it is a SAD day that he can not even play in own front yard anymore. When he wants to dress up and play combat or even play with his Nerf guns we now make him play in the backyard so no one will mistake for doing something Evil. The real evil in this world is making it a sad place for our children to grow up.
BC Lib
5:25 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012
If you read the article, he was not in his front yard, he was in the woods on a busy street where 4 of the town's four schools are located. He was across the street from 2 strip malls and a condo complex. It was NOT his back-yard, front-yard, or the woods behind his house, unless he lives at Seiko. Further, who was he playing this "game" with? An army of one? If you decide to play "games" like this, stay on your own property!
BC Lib
5:25 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012
And why wouldn't he tell the police who he was?
Abt
4:55 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Ms. Mazzola: are the police still refusing to answer the questions you posed to them?
Abt
5:17 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013
Still waiting for the intended follow-up.
Abt
12:47 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Just checking in after another week. Any news?
Jessica Mazzola
12:51 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
I just commented above to JP, but yes I am working on an update article about this story. It should be ready sometime next week. Thanks for continuously checking in!
Jude
5:12 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Is there a way that these comments can be shown by order of date? Most recent at top?
KG
8:43 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Just wanted to make one thing clear. I am all for an investigation. Calls about anyone running around with a rifle withing city limits is worth checking into..
What I am against is the automatic labeling as a criminal when all the facts are not in. Police often bring people in and sometimes overstep and try to use trumped up charges to validate their actions. By now, the kid should have been arranged and charged with an offense and that info should be available.
Convictions come later, if there is a trial, maybe by now if there was a plea bargain.