Most of Mahwah Remains Without Power for Third Day
O&R says it is fixing the 'backbone' of its system before restoring local power
Three days after Hurricane Sandy swept through Mahwah, a majority of the township remains without power.
Wednesday afternoon, Orange & Rockland reported that of its 230,000 customers that lost power during the storm, it has restored power to about 40,000. It is reporting that very few of those restorations were in Mahwah.
Mayor Bill Laforet said the township is trying to work with the utility to get power back on as soon as possible.
"Town officials spoke with Rockland Electric officials [Wednesday] and they indicate they are working to rebuild the transmission and switching stations before work can begin to restore electricity to specific areas," he said in an alert to residents Wednesday. "We all want our electricity restored but the process is likely going to take several more days."
According to the utility, by Wednesday afternoon it had repaired 13 of its 27 damaged transmission lines, seven of its17 de-energized substations, and 20 of its 105 downed distribution circuits.
“O&R continues to engage in a systematic inspection, damage assessment, reconstruction and restoration process,” it said in a release. “This effort is expected to take weeks to complete.”
O&R explained its process in the release:
- The first priority is to restore the system’s backbone by repairing transmission circuits and substations. That work must take place before distribution, or local load, can be restored.
- At the same time, a second set of teams is being deployed onto the distribution system in a systematic and pre-determined manner that includes:
- Damage assessment on state, county and major local roads
- Reconstruction of the distribution system on state roads, followed by county roads. After that work is done, those crews will be shifted into restoring circuits feeding critical infrastructure and services. These critical facilities include: local governments whose operations provide essential services required by residents.
- Simultaneously, O&R is securing downed wires on major roads. Restoration then moves onto critical infrastructure followed by the largest block of customers out of service, smaller blocks of customers and then individual customer service outages.
Township officials have reported that while municipal workers have been clearing roadways since the storm, certain downed trees that are intermingled with fallen power lines can only be removed in coordination with the utility.
O&R said most of its customers would have power back within the next seven days, but some will take longer.
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fastharry
7:26 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Let me sum this up in two words....we're effed.
Sandy
9:07 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012
It could be worse. Be thankful you still have a standing house, many don't
M.Sav
9:09 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012
This is absolutely insane, how did they not prepare for this, they knew exactly what was coming.
katalin stumpf
12:03 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
for so many things we simply can not be prepared.look at the elements we all facing
Bob Rama
1:07 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
This is a ridiculous statement. What else could have been done? You can't predict where trees are going to fall or which transformers blow. Orange & Rockland only has so many resources. What would you have had them done?
Lower Taxes
9:10 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012
And remember they were going to charge us for all the repair work from the previous storm by increasing electrical rates. Would not you think that they would factor such maintenance/repair into their rate base already? So we now see that even putting electrical wires underground does not completely protect them. Maybe we need to go back to the Nickalous Tesla method of transmitting electricity through the air. Why was he stopped by the powers to be?
Jessica Mazzola
9:12 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Hi All -- Just a reminder about the alert sent out this morning - The charging station for cellular devices, laptops etc. is now open at the Mahwah Police Station on Franklin Tpke. You can access the station through the rear of headquarters.
BC Lib
9:38 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012
With the weather getting colder you would think Ridge Road would be a priority so the schools could be set up as shelters. We are running out of food and it is getting cold. In my opinion, 700 customers were not a priority for the town of Mahwah when so many of us are freezing in our homes. Four schools are just sitting there powerless and there hasn't been one truck on Ridge Road repairing since Monday.
Jeff Wexler
10:45 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Why in gods name did I get a call from Mayor LaForet yesterday telling me that 700 families in Fardale have power restored? I live in Fardale, ran 5 miles through Fardale and no one has power in Fardale. Who is he kidding???? and why is he wasting taxpayer money to make calls to people who can't even get the message. If you get power then you are lucky. I don't need dissappointing news thinking I am going home to a house with power to find no one having power. Stop calling please.
Regenbogen
12:34 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Jeff
Certain areas of Fardale do have power. So sorry you are not one but compared to what others are going through...Let's stay positive.
robert klingen
11:08 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Anyone that suggests any utility could have prepared for this type/of storm is clearly ignorant. Instead of complaining and criticizing we should all be thankful our homes are still standing and suck it up!
Tammy Marcus
2:53 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
I am in Fardale and the neighbors down the street have power. We are sitting patiently, pooling together resources and helping eachother out. The sense of community in Mahwah is amazing. Thankfully we are kept up to date on all township matters via the Nixle system as we do not have phone service. What a valuable resource!
This storm could have been a heck of a lot worse. People kinda forget that Irene had us under a lot of water as well as power outages.
Walter White
3:35 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
This blows. I drive past downed trees and all I see are workers and cops drinking coffee. How much longer do we allow this to continue??
Bob Rama
3:40 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Patience, Walter. Are you upset that they go to sleep, too?
Shelley Spaulding
4:07 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
I am also in Fardale and do not have power. We are in Bogerts, and most of Pulis has power, but they somehow went right past us. There are over 130 homes in there with mostly elderly people, seems like its okay to by pass us because we are low income to get to those who have more money..
Anne Marie F.
11:40 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Hi
I would like to help. Not sure if word has gotten out to you and your neighbors. There is a warming station at Ramapo College during the day until 10 PM and also a dinner tomorrow evening by the Mahwah Elves from 5PM to 7PM at the Ramapo Reformed Church. Not sure if you and your neighbors are able to get there or how to get the word out.
Andy
5:12 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
The slow response is troubling. I have not seen any repair trucks around or working. Where is the resiliance in their infrastructure...what a terrible design. And they want to increase rates?
hsr
5:52 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Shelley don't forget it all depends on where your wires are running from know one knows who you are. Just hang in there. Notify Rockland electric again and give them
your phone number they check your address with that. Maybe go have the dinner they talked about at the church. Wish I could help you. Call the Mayor he'll help.
Walter White
6:46 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
@bob Rama: they have contractors in from 3 states. They're all doing a lot of looking and not a whole lot of fixin. If this goes another 24 hours, people will lose their fucking minds!
Bob Rama
7:12 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
You need to get a grip on the size of the devastation and stop being so selfish
CaraGia
1:18 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
Unions pushed non union out of state workers from Alabama out of NJ when all they wanted to do was help restore power. Check with your repos on this and ask them why this was allowed.
http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/some-nonunion-ala-crews-turned-away-from-sandy-recovery
SN
7:05 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Tammy is right, Mahwah is a great community to live in, as strangers with power have opened doors to others without to be able to charge things, a warm meal, a shower, a hair dryer, or just warmth in general; it brings tears to my eyes. While the stress of this has made me cry several times since Monday, I am grateful that this mostly poses a great inconvienence as opposed to what Irene did. I'd rather lose a few hundred dollars worth of food than a few thousand in furniture, electonics, or other furnishings. I am physically fine allbeit a bit more emotional. As the old addage says: This too shall pass, and what a story we will have to tell.
Andrea Soha
8:40 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Friday - Nov 2nd from 5pm - 7pm Free Salad & Pasta Dinner at Ramapo Reformed Church for residents without power. Also a charging station is set up. Please tell your neighbors that may not have phone or cell service!!!!
John Thomas
9:52 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Our son-in-law is an AEP lineman who just got there to help. These line men will be working 16 to 18 hour days. They are all caring men who want to get your power back as soon as possible. Give them a break ..they are working as hard and fast as possible. Hang in there...our prayers are with you & them !
Jan Rudnick
10:38 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
Part of the problem is that in NJ the unions won't allow the people who fix the wires to touch the trees or the guys who cut back the trees to touch the wires. So instead of waiting for one crew we are actually waiting for two. As explained to us by some R & O people today, if we get luckywe might get a visiting crew from a state that trains their guys to do both.
BC Lib
11:33 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012
@ Andy- I think you overlooked my point. Four schools and the library stand empty because electricity has not been restored to Ridge Road. I don't begrudge those who have gotter the power back. For the GREATER good of a town of 27,000 residents where 80 percent are without electricity I think Ridge Road is a priority. WHY? Because those schools can be used as shelters to sleep during fifty degree nights. Those schools could be places to get hot meal. Those schools can be used as a place for mass numbers of people to come together during this stressful time. Electronics can be charged and residents could go to the library and check out books. Some residents don't have friends or family with power and as a result are left shivering in their dark homes while spending copious amounts of money on restaurant food.
That is why, in my opinion, I think Ridge Road is a priority. But perhaps what a previous poster stated bears some truth.....the neighborhoods surrounding the schools aren't worthy because they aren't part of big-money Mahwah.
CaraGia
1:16 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
It might have more to do with the unions feeling threatened by non-union out of state workers. Contact the bonehead who decided this and ask him.
http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/some-nonunion-ala-crews-turned-away-from-sandy-recovery
Jonathan N. Marcus, Esq.
9:11 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
BC Lib: Today's article on Patch gives some more insight into what is going on in the Ridge Road area. Looks like it is a major complication for O&R.
http://mahwah.patch.com/articles/underground-burning-wire-complicates-ridge-road-power-restoration
MahwahMom
12:41 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
Has anyone checked their status date on O&R's website? And if so what was tge date they're saying we will have power again? Thank you!
Jonathan N. Marcus, Esq.
9:16 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
MahwahMom: I checked my status, but I wish I had not. It says that power to my home in the Fardale Section is anticipate to be restored by November 11th. However, I must take note of the past history with these O&R estimates. I recall that when we lost power last year for many days, the date on the O&R website was initially a very long period. They then updated it to cut the period much shorter. In fact, I recall that power was actually restored a good day or two ahead of the revised date they gave. At this stage, I suspect that they are listing almost everyone as being "November 11th." I wouldn't be surprised if many of those dates are changed shortly. (At least that is what I am praying for!)
CaraGia
1:15 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
Maybe this will help explain why so many are STILL without power.
http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/some-nonunion-ala-crews-turned-away-from-sandy-recovery
Jonathan N. Marcus, Esq.
9:34 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
Here is what I read on News 12 NJ about this non-union crew story:
All media reports that are currently circulating [the non-union worker support story] are only going off one source (WAFF.com). Jersey Central Power & Light spokesman Ron Morano told News12 that JCP&L has accepted help from all crews. "We have not turned away any help," he said. "Absolutely not." Please always consider the source!
CaraGia
7:47 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
@Andy and all other detractors,
Here, for your viewing pleasure, are multiple links from a WIDE variety of sources, both conservative and liberal, all reporting the same thing - that non-union crews were turned away from NJ.
And please explain just HOW I EXPLOITED anyone on this page??
CaraGia
7:47 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Did it actually occur to you that quite possibly, my posting this article may have led to the wide circulation of it and phone calls or emails that are responsible for the bigwigs back-pedaling and looking to save face for their absolute stupidity and audacity in refusing to actually allow non-union workers to help NJ residents? Nah, THAT just couldn't be now could it??? Politicians and corporate executives NEVER LIE, right??
Kind of odd though how long it took all of them to issue a response and hush it up on the other end.
http://money.msn.com/politics/post.aspx?post=f10196ea-b637-4c70-9e4e-daf819b06d38
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/02/utility-companies-deny-right-wing-media-claims/191101
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/hurricane-devastated-nj-town-rejects-non-union-alabama-electrical-workers/
http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/11/02/union-red-tape-in-nj-causes-alabama-recovery-crew-to-head-home/
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/alabama-utility-crews-turned-away-from-sandy-relief-not-union/
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/02/New-Jersey-Turns-Away-Nonunion-Relief-Crews
http://www.therightscoop.com/nonunion-utility-crews-turned-away-from-new-jersey/
CaraGia
7:48 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
BTW, there are a multitude of other articles out there about this topic that all come from reliable sources other than the ones I chose to post here. You're more than welcome to do your own homework on those, though.
CaraGia
8:12 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
How many of you have heard that Martial Law was declared in Seaside Heights, Union Beach and Highlands and others, as well? I'm only posting this here because I'm not sure what other sources you are able to tap into at this time. Just an FYI.... NOT GOOD!!!
BC Lib
9:12 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
@ Andy....again. How would anyone know about the buckling problem on Ridge Road since there wasn't any news about it until one day after this article? Where was the team laforet reverse call about this problem? Laforet stated he was "prioritizing" what areas would be addressed. Again, in my opinion Ridge Road was a priority. Interesting that only after the public started clamoring on this discussion board did the town release information about Ridge Road.
Stop being such a know it all troll and STOP USING CAPITALS, it just makes you more annoying!
CaraGia
10:57 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Because you could be next, Andy. Why such a Smart @ss lately? I realize things are stressful, but simmer down already with your aggression.
For those of you who have not, but might consider better preparations in the future should another event like this take place, I'd like to provide you with some info from some friends of mine who have been "prepping" for quite sometime. It could make all the difference in the world to you and your families on the next go 'round. Talk with your neighbors and friends about working together as a group. If you have no one to do this with, you CAN do it alone, too. Whatever you end up doing, make sure you can trust those who might be involved or know about your "preps."
Prepared? MOST IMPORTANT...DO NOT RELY ON THE GOVERNMENT FOR ANYTHING!
We get asked all the time what to have for disaster prep in our home and the 5 minute or less list.
CaraGia
10:59 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
I have looked at this over the years in different ways. We each have our own "to do" lists and we work on them throughout the year to keep this home ready and stocked.
Clint does the ammo...guns...vehicles and over all defense of home plan. Our other plan is staying AT home..only leave for extreme health issues...If your house is on fire..yes please leave and ask me why I need to mention it;)
Heidi's Part: I take care of all food, water, cleaning and medical.
Its good to designate people within your family to have a role in something. This not only takes the load off one person but with more in your family thinking about it the more likely you will not miss something...so just food for thought on that.
CaraGia
11:00 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
This list is what I started years ago and I based it of having NOTHING!....nothing to heat things up including food and your body and nothing to keep things cool as far as food...you have no generator and there is no gas at the gas stations....worst case situation.
Last night I tried to imagine if I were a parent living in NY and I had no heat to keep myself and children warm...no clean water...no way to feed them and no way to defend them from bad people...excuse my french but that is some scary shit on the mental crap O Meter. So...lets do our best to NOT be in that position.
We have based our list on never having to leave our home...what gets you into trouble is exposing yourself to the "dangerous elements...natural and man made"
WEEKS MINIMUM! No excuses...you must have at least 2 weeks period...for many on the East coast they will be out for at least another week to 10 days.
CaraGia
11:01 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
1. Have the ability to protect yourself, family and home: Guns...ammo..flashlights..extra batteries( HUGE D battery shortages in the Storm area)....ability to lock and secure openings. Looters and bad people are dressing up in power company uniforms and robbing homes...jeeze some poor guy in NY was robbed by 5 guys on the street just trying to get out of the storm...THEY ARE NOT LIKE US and will cut your head off and put it on a stick if you get in their way...do don't even go outside..try and stay at home.
2. Fireproof box for cash and important documents like insurance and passports...so you can grab it fast and get out and have physical security over it while you are home.
CaraGia
11:01 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
3. FOOD and WATER: You can go to the extreme on this but you don't have to. Go to the store and buy canned goods...fruit...veggies...protein...this you can all eat COLD and do NOT have to prep or use water for dishes..just open them an eat.( I hope Andrea Mitchell someday needs some canned goods and clothing...seems to me that is what people are asking for on the east coast today..ok..had to get that in;)) Please include food for your animals...pets are our family...and if you are like us...you will NOT be leaving them. Have the ability before hand with smaller pets to have a crate so you can keep them safe.
4. MEDS and basic first aid...have at least a months worth of meds that you need...pharmacies are the stores being hit the most right now and it might take longer for them to open up. Have a good basic first aid kit.
If you require meds that need to be kept cold...look into getting a small tiny one that runs on batteries.
CaraGia
11:01 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
5. Staying warm..right now this is a huge issues to the storm survivors. Clint and I have fireplaces and firewood but for something short term we have the lower back thermal care packs...you can keep yourself warm for 8 hours with those. Also an idea is if you are in larger house...if you have tent...set it up ...you can create more heat and the kids will have fun;) If you have sleeping bags those are good also and hold heat especially in your tent and with your body core heater.
6. Bathroom: Have the ability to keep yourself clean...think ahead how you would handle "garbage"....buckets and garbage bags you can be very creative with but you need to be able to put it someplace asap before someone in the family does something stupid. Remember what it was like inside the bathrooms at the stadium during Katrina? Yes...Holy Crap in the real sense...you must take this seriously and think about it. Don't think the power will come back on in a day so you can flush what you have "done"...so...have your plan in place. Going outside to do your business may NOT be an option during dangerous times. Don't know about you but I don't want to be caught with my pants down and get robbed or worse.
CaraGia
11:01 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
7. Phone contact person...ok...this can be a hard one but pick 2 to 3 people you know that do not live by you....one of them should be whom you get messages to in case you are on limited phone battery...give them a list of who they need to call to tell them you are ok. I think the hardest part would be for me not being able to get ahold of my mom and our kids...not knowing...and so that helps you family and friends help you.
This is our down and dirty 2 week list and at least have a couple days worth of the above if you CAN drive and get to "safer ground". This is NOT all inclusive...but I hope this can help some of you that would like to just get a start at it. Seeing what is happening to our country because of Sandy is horrid but its a good lesson for all of us to not be caught off guard.
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