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Crossroads Hearing Postponed, Again

Both the developer and the anti-mall group say they are 'disappointed' at the outcome of Monday's scheduled hearing

The public hearing on the Crossroads Town Center, a 750,000 square foot retail, hotel and office complex a developer is seeking to build at the intersection of Routes 17 and 287, was postponed Monday night. Originally scheduled to be heard in front of the township’s planning board , this is the second time the proceeding has been pushed back.

The delay came after engineer Mike Kelly asked that the developer provide additional traffic information to the board. “Traffic is a major component of this application,” he said. Kelly said he twice requested the developer include additional traffic information during his review of the mall application, but did not receive it. “The traffic data would need to be added before [our engineering firm, Boswell Engineering] can finish our review and recommend the board hear this application,” he explained.

The requested components are details on what roadway improvements the developer would propose in the area surrounding the shopping center. The application contained suggestions for where improvements would be made, but not proposals on what exactly should be done to those roads.

The board unanimously agreed with Kelly, and asked the developer to provide the requested information in a timely manner so the hearing can begin in February.

Jim Jaworski, the Crossroads attorney, said he was “disappointed” that the board refused to hear other components of the site plan Monday that “do not have to do with traffic. Traffic is an important part of this application and there will be extensive traffic testimony at a future meeting.”

Though it didn’t happen Monday night, the planning board did decide that the hearing will proceed. The Committee to Stop Mahwah Mall, a resident group suing the township in an effort to stop the development, requested the board rule the application was not within its purview to hear. A superior court judge the board’s request for a special judgment advising it on a new state law’s applicability to this case, and whether or not it precluded the board from hearing the Crossroads application.

Board attorney Peter Scandariato said the dismissal does not mean that the board can refuse to hear the application. “It is not within this board’s power to interpret state statute,” he said. The ultimate decision on the application’s fate will likely be made in court, as pending lawsuits question the validity of Mahwah zoning laws that were changed several times last year to allow for, then not allow for, the retail development. “Though we may waste some time [and some money] hearing this while we wait for the court’s decision, it is my recommendation at this time that the board hear the application.”

Most of the 50 or so residents at the public hearing were not happy with that decision. “We are disappointed that the board decided to hear this,” CSMM member Susan Chin said. “The board could have said they weren’t going to hear it.”

The new hearing date is tentatively scheduled for February 13.

Gottardo DiGiacopo January 24, 2012 at 02:36 PM
if only it were as simple as the will of the mahwah residents overcoming the legacy of ex-mayor john dapuzzo and all his suspect allegiances (many still in positions of power).
resident January 24, 2012 at 02:39 PM
I can not believe that the Crossroads Development was not discussed at the Flooding Committee meeting last week. Talk about wasting time and money. The surrounding townships gathered to discuss their combined efforts to resolve the flooding and there was no mention the of the Crossroads Develpment. Any plans to work on the flooding will be thrown out the window it they don't factor in the mall and the impact it will have on the flooding. Another waste of time and money.
Hank January 24, 2012 at 07:20 PM
I really think a Costco would be perfect there,
Mercedes1 January 24, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Wegmans and Trader Joe's!
Hank January 25, 2012 at 12:13 AM
now you are talking I would add cruise ship type buffet joint micro brewery all you can eat crab Outback Royal Warsaw II Good German Restaurant wild bird food store another micro brewery
resident January 25, 2012 at 08:29 PM
Can't you do that in Paramus?
Hank January 25, 2012 at 10:52 PM
no way! too much traffic in Paramus
Mike Kupchik January 25, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Hank for Mayor in 2013! Probably enough room for a third microbrewery too.
Hank January 25, 2012 at 11:34 PM
thank you would be nice if they were all connected to one central location one brewery would just be dedicated to Barley Wines another perfecting an Oatmeal Stout the third would be for the "hoppy crowd" and the "seasonals" all converging to the center of the lifestyle center next to the "all you can eat" Maryland Crab Palace THANK YOU CROSSROADS!!!
Gottardo DiGiacopo January 26, 2012 at 01:01 AM
and a few of mahwah high schools sons and daughters selling drugs and turning tricks in the thousand dark corners and we're really set. we got the beers, the fake crab meat drenched in palm oil, a smoke and a happy ending! STDs and heart-disease for everyone; thank you crossroads!!!
Hank January 26, 2012 at 02:33 AM
Gottardo "and a few mahwah high school sons and daughters selling drugs and turning tricks" This is how you view our kids. Very strange indeed.
Gottardo DiGiacopo January 26, 2012 at 03:30 AM
it's certainly how i view the culture of mall worship that put kids and communities in harms way. as for your suggestion that i was demonizing some fellow residents child, Sarcasm is a common abstraction; i'm sorry if you had missed that part Hank.
Hank January 26, 2012 at 03:51 AM
that is my suggestion
Mercedes1 January 26, 2012 at 06:15 AM
Gottardo, no need to belittle our young adults in Mahwah. STD's and heart disease would be blamed on the mall? What are you thinking?
Hank January 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM
well Gottardo we should require the girls to wear burkas, behead the drug dealers and cut the hands off the thieves.problem solved
resident January 26, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Wow what is this discussion about? Too much traffice in Paramus - lets just bring everyone from NY to shop the mall so they don't have to pay tax.
Hank January 26, 2012 at 04:36 PM
What's wrong with New Yorkers? Oh, "those" New Yorkers I get it now.
resident January 26, 2012 at 07:47 PM
There is nothing wrong with New Yorkers Hank. We are talking about traffic. What are you talking about? Time log off on this article.
Hank January 26, 2012 at 11:07 PM
oh what happens if the traffic studies show there will be no problem will you still be against the mall?
Gottardo DiGiacopo January 26, 2012 at 11:54 PM
for the record: i don't belittle anyones child, ever (mercedes),though i certainly question things that parents of children wish for and the things those parents believe will be an aid in parenting (the mall being repeatedly described as a desired place for our kids to hang out). i grew up in a different world where people ate dinner at home together, talked about their day while washing the dinner dishes, drew on the road for hours with colorful shale stones (or chalk on the rare occassion we had some), carved a new walking stick every week during the summer... for walking!, collected acorns for acorn fights, swung on vines, dropped frogs off a twenty foot wall tied to homemade parachutes,
Gottardo DiGiacopo January 27, 2012 at 12:07 AM
we didn't need a mall. i like to walk to suffern for a movie with my wife or the kids (now quite grown). if ever i need something 'the mall' has, i'd much rather drive to paramus or harriman than have that monstrous ass-ache stuck in our town and polluting kids lives. just my opinion; obviously some people disagree, and i'm okay with that... no matter what comes me and my family will be okay.
Gottardo DiGiacopo January 27, 2012 at 12:27 AM
pressed grapes for wine (still do), jarred 250 quarts of tomatoes with mom (81) every september (still do, and my children help peel tomatoes by hand), played a lot of ball although 'travel-teams' didn't exist then and our parents told us we weren't so good when we stunk, got our haicuts from dad, never needed a mall to be entertained (and certainly not one at the expense of so many peoples lifestyles and wishes). i understand fully that all us people are different. i feel it's important that we accept that fact while we communicate our sentiments with conviction. i'm not angry but i'll let myself get riled up because then i'll act. i have campaigned a lot to stop this mall because i believe it represents much of what's wrong in america today. and btw, i couldn't care less about the traffic study hank (which could only come back as "needing major improvents") since the trafiic is already often a nightmare on my side of town. "Burn Down the Mall!!!"
Andy Schmidt January 27, 2012 at 03:52 AM
Hank - I'm sorry to say exactly THAT DOES happen in Mahwah.
Hank January 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM
This is crazy. The mall will enable Mahwah HS students to engage in drug dealing and prostitution? And Andy you are buying in to this too? So when a group of Mahwah girls do you try to figure out which one is the hooker?
Andy Schmidt January 27, 2012 at 02:03 PM
Hank - my comment was not about the mall. Gottardo made a reference to certain actions of Mahwah High Schoolers - and while most residents are completely unaware and therefore quickly dismiss this as "negative talk" (as it happened in this thread), these DO unfortunately take place with Mahwah students. Thats all. Whether or not the mall would create additional "opportunities" because of the additional in-flux of "out of towners" is speculation. I do know that the Palisades Mall has created those problems for its host city.
Hank January 27, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Andy if there is drug dealing and prostitution in Mahwah HS how come you know and we don't? What do you mean "THAT DOES" happen or "these "DO" unfortunately happen in Mahwah. I am surprised you would even say something like this without backing it up. The "That's all" what does that mean? Gottardo is claiming the mall will specifically enable Mahwah HS students to sell drugs and "turn tricks". He's very specific Mahwah HS sons and daughters. And you are saying it goes on but most people don't know about it but you do. Geez
Andy Schmidt January 27, 2012 at 07:45 PM
Hank, it means that I have personal knowledge of at least one such person (and where there is "trade" there are "customers/users".) Even if this is dissatisfying to your curiousity - that is the extent that I'm willing to share.
Hank January 27, 2012 at 11:11 PM
My guess is the lifestyle center will wind up "college town" The 6,000 students at Ramapo have no place to go. A food store,micro brewery,food joints,costco,etc. It's going to be great.
terryC February 12, 2012 at 08:57 AM
It's sad but true, if you have a kid in school you would know there's easy access to drugs and yes tricks too. The police know too. and Hank, don't you find it ironic you said "no way! too much traffic in Paramus" well, the traffic and crime will be coming to Mahwah.
Hank February 12, 2012 at 01:28 PM
your right terry . I was at the Stateline diner this morning and I saw some HS kids with hash. . Let's review: The two biggest fears here are the Orthodox from Monroe and are going clog up our neighborhoods to beat the tax and our HS kids are going to sell them drugs and tricks. Got it.

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