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Crossroads Shrinks Size of Proposed Movie Theater

The movie theater proposed to be a part of the Crossroads Town Center development would have one parking space for every five movie theater seats

A movie theater that would be at the top of the pedestrian-friendly area of the ‘Crossroads Town Center’ shopping development proposed for the land surrounding the Sheraton Mahwah Hotel just got a bit smaller.

According to a developer presentation Monday night at an , the theater, which was previously proposed to have 3,000 seats, will now have 2,035. Though representatives of the Crossroads Developer said the exact number of screens built would be up to the independent theater vendor that would operate the facility, that many seats would typically make up an 8-12 screen theater.

The change was in response to board concerns about parking near the theater, which, in the proposal, is located near smaller retail shops in an area designed to be pedestrian-friendly. The other side of the development would contain two big box stores.

In its previous submission, the developer proposed 407 parking spaces, or about one spot for every 12 seats in the theater – the minimum required by a township ordinance allowing for the Crossroads Town Center development to be built. Reducing the number of seats in the theater would knock that ratio down to one parking space for every five seats in the theater.

The planning board has been debating the number of parking spaces and layout of the pedestrian-friendly side of the development for about a year during the ongoing public hearing. 

The tweaked internal traffic plan presented by civil engineer Michael Junghans Monday included several changes to the design of the interior of the site - including turning the current traffic circle into a two-way road, with a turning lane in the middle, and adding a sidewalk running around the entire loop, which would connect the smaller retail side of the development with the big box side.

Monday night, board members brought up additional concerns about the flow of people driving and walking through the center, saying that the proposed plan did not include enough pedestrian connections between parking areas and stores, restaurants, and the theater.

“I don’t think we can have too many crosswalks or sidewalks,” Planning Board Chair Todd Sherer said. “We can’t overdue safety."

Crossroads representatives said they would make additional changes to the design, add in more pedestrian-friendly elements, and return to the board with a future presentation.

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Gottardo DiGiacopo February 26, 2013 at 12:15 PM
thank you for your loyal attendance Jessica! the more i see these Mall plans articulated at the most dangerous intersection of metropolis traffic i've ever driven on, the more disturbing the whole idea becomes. the fact that Crossroads has reduced the enormous movieplex down to 10 theatres is because they know the deemed "safety" critical to the progress of the entire project is otherwise in jeapordy. despite these small changes, many of us believe this mall remains wildly unsafe... we're also certain the traffic it generates will adversely impact all of Mahwah. and noone is to blame for the simple fact that a Giant Mall at the Sheraton/Sharp location is simply untenable! my hope is people will at least make their feelings clear to council & planning board members, and that more will attend these hearings. i also think it's imperative that the NY NJ DOT is made aware of our increasing & warranted safety concerns.
Mahwah Resident February 26, 2013 at 01:23 PM
I wish this darn mall would just go away!! Mahwah is going down hill!,,, No mall. No mall
duke03 February 26, 2013 at 05:50 PM
Am I the only Mahwah resident that is actually in favor of this mall? I have lived in Mahwah going on 37yrs. When my husband actually makes the suggestion "lets go to the movies" I find myself sitting in traffic going up to the Palisades or down to the Plaza. Then try to find a place to park the car..forget it. I also feel that I would rather spend my money in Mahwah then spend my lunch hr or endless hrs on the weekends driving around Ramsey's Intersate parking lot in order to just "run into" a store for something. Since I live and work in Mahwah I would rather spend my money in this town instead of taking it elsewhere. I dont live to far away from where the mall is to go up and I find it strange when alot of the people that are complaining about the impact of traffic in the area dont even live on that side of town. It will create jobs not only in the building phase of it but after in the stores.
Mahwah Resident February 26, 2013 at 08:23 PM
If it was just a theater, I wouldn't be so against it, but its more than that. We're talking about big box stores and a "community center" style "pedestrian friendly" area. None of which, in my opinion, are accurate descriptions. But they soften the blow and make it seem nicer, in actuality these added shops and large chain stores will only serve to take away business from Mahwah's already struggling local small businesses, If you'd like to spend your money in Mahwah there is no shortage of places to spend it. I am also concerned with traffic, I feel adding anything, even just a movie theater to that intersection would have terrible effects and make the traffic backups that happen there even worse. I am concerned with our environment, specifically the Ramapo River. We can all see, at this very moment, how much salt is put on the roads. Imagine the amount of salt it would take to treat an entire mall parking lot, then imagine the runoff from that salt and any other chemicals leeching into the river, I do not think the developer has put enough thought into this aspect. I see no real benefits to this mall, only embellished descriptions of a "town center" that will be located conveniently on the outskirts of town. I am 22 years old, a mhs grad and have no problems driving to Paramus or Palisades to see a movie, a Mahwah Mall is just nuts.
stan slestack February 26, 2013 at 08:53 PM
Are all of the kickbacks in yet? That will determine if and when this mall goes up. Just like the eyesore of the Ramapo Mountain Skyline (Sheraton Crossroads) this too will get rammed through one way or another. Nothing stops "progress".
Ira February 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM
Very strange point of view in my opinion. Instead of sitting in traffic in Paramus you will be sitting in traffic in your beloved Mahwah.
Macy February 27, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Very Interesting comments! The fact that there are many, many empty stores and offices all over Bergen county dosnt seem to come into the mix???? It seems to me no one is addressing the impact of the trafic on 17 and the thruway? there are accidents every day in that very area and the traffic backups on any given day and time doesnt seem to come into the consideration? I think its time that there is a major change with these local planning boards and making it a rule that things like traffic, and even need becomes a consideration in all of these applications.
Just me from Mawhah February 27, 2013 at 03:08 PM
Roscoe, you are not alone. There are many Mahwah residents in favor of this mall - myself included! It's about time our community (kids included) had somewhere to go and have a cup of coffee, do a little botique shopping, have some ice cream, eat a decent meal, and see a movie! Ramsey has a downtown, Wycoff has a downtown, Ridgewood has a downtown, etc. etc. etc. Lets disregard the miserable nay sayers (every town has them), and lets get on with improving the quality of our town!
Just me from Mawhah February 27, 2013 at 03:13 PM
Enough with the stupid traffic comments! I drive by Interstate & Kohls every day... there is NO traffic on route 17 becuase of these parking lots. I drive by Palisades Center every weekend, there is NO traffic on the Thruway becuase of this mall! (and this mall is huge!) get off your soapboxes and get on board...
JoeRobertson February 27, 2013 at 03:19 PM
You're worried about "sitting in traffic" to go to the Palisades? OH JUST WAIT UNTIL THIS MALL IS BUILT!!!! You ain't seen nothing yet with traffic jams. Now you won't be able to go ANYWHERE because of the Rt 17 tie ups.
JoeRobertson February 27, 2013 at 03:31 PM
Just Me... what planet do you live on? I commute to and from work every day on Rt. 17, and 4, and it's gridlock city!
Macy February 27, 2013 at 03:45 PM
Obviously you dont drive north during rush hour, friday evenings and when there is a accident that blocks all accesses.
StupidlyHappy February 27, 2013 at 03:49 PM
I think there is a math error in "the developer proposed 407 parking spaces, or about one spot for every 12 seats in the theater". 3000/407=7.371 not 12 as described, should read about 7.
Kevin February 27, 2013 at 04:01 PM
If the builder decided not to put in a movie theater the traffic would greatly go down because the theater has the largest turnover of vehicles. The rest could be handled if down correctly which I have my doubts about. Just Me I guess it is my mind playing tricks on me when I see traffic back up to Burger King on 17 North on Fridays in the summer. I am in favor of retail but not a mall. Ramsey and its center of town is not what is going here,its a mall not a town center. Just a play on words to make people think all is good with what they want to build.
Glenn Murphy February 27, 2013 at 07:36 PM
To the: Mahwah Resident.. I was "Formerly a Resident" of this town, Due to "Extreme Costs of Rentals" that MAHWAH NJ is known for. People MOVED OUT to the "Unliveable areas of bergen county:Hackensack,Englewood + Other Lower Cost Towns". As for this DAMN Mall.. It's ONLY GONNA BRING IN MORE: Mount Laura HOUSING Complexs into YOUR "Expensive Exclusive Township".. So YOUR CRIME Will GO WAY UP and so will Traffic Problems... Ah PLus Mahwah Quality of LIFE Will GO DOWN!!
Joseph pike February 27, 2013 at 08:45 PM
The ignorance of people who say they will finally have somthing to do is amazing. You go to the movies in paramus, think of all the people who will be coming to mahwah now. And do the contractors know the land is riddled with asbestos and paint toxins from the old ford plant. Have fun with you're car getting broke into and all the new drugs your kids will have access to! Myself being a kid.
Hank February 28, 2013 at 03:49 AM
wait a second between 10 and 3 you can do the speed limit down 17 to rt 3 or to rt 4 and the malls are open. It's you commuters who won't take mass transit to work who cause all the traffic not the shoppers
Hank February 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM
I hope the put a nice big Costco there maybe a bowling alley too
Just me from Mawhah February 28, 2013 at 02:25 PM
traffic on rte 17 & 4 in PARAMUS... not in Mahwah! ever... and I've lived here 20 years
Just me from Mawhah February 28, 2013 at 02:27 PM
I live very close to Rte 17 and there is NEVER traffic in Mahwah... rare Friday's on HOLIDAY weekends only...
Just me from Mawhah February 28, 2013 at 02:29 PM
well said Hank... it's the commuters (not shoppers)
JoeRobertson March 01, 2013 at 01:16 PM
You know... that's a good question, Stan. It makes you wonder. For example, how did Stryker ever get approved to move into the town? Did you know that it dumps lung-cancer producing chromium in the air? http://toxic-release.findthedata.org/q/450936/1046/Does-Stryker-Orthopaedics-in-Mahwah-New-Jersey-release-toxic-waste And.. they are they have the highest toxic release inventory of any NJ EPA Regulated site. Check this out... http://epa-sites.findthedata.org/app-question/d/a/New-Jersey/Mahwah/3537/What-Mahwah-New-Jersey-EPA-Regulated-Site-has-the-highest-toxic-release-inventory Thanks for the "clean industry"... and... I can't wait to "thank" our council for the upcoming traffic gridlock
JoeRobertson March 01, 2013 at 01:24 PM
Gee Hank, I work in Closter. Please tell me which bus will take me there from Mahwah. I would love to take mass transportation, but not everybody works in New York City.
Frank March 03, 2013 at 05:19 PM
who knows?! maybe it will be more pleasant going south to paramus and ridgewood for movies and such, as we do now anyway...after throngs people switch to the mahwah mall instead! BTW I suspect most patrons will be coming from ny state in any event, right over the border with a lower sale tax, no?
Greg Haner April 25, 2013 at 01:37 AM
If you were a household member of one of the hundreds of Mahwah families who MUST use the Rt. 17 exit that will also become the primary entry/exit for the new mall... to get to and from their homes off of Stag Hill Road, then maybe you wouldn't find it strange to complain about having access to where you live "blended" with new traffic lights and all of the new vehicle traffic for a 600,000 square foot mall. We are Mahwah residents too. I wonder how you'd feel about the multiple year building phase if you were forced to drive through it every time you left your house?

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